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Kevin Kofler	Quill runtime update available	Lead	[-]
Posts: 7049 (2004-02-01 21:50:16) Admin Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	Not really a beta, but I didn't find a better place to announce this: I have updated Zeljko's Quill runtime interpreter, so it now works with AMS 2.07 and higher. (It suffered from the infamous "Invalid Relocation Data in ASM Program" bug.) The updated version (same ZIP for all 3 calculators, the executables are different for the TI-89 and for the TI-92+/V200 though) can be downloaded at www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/219/21943.html. By the way, if there is any other of Zeljko's programs needing a critical bugfix, just report it here, I'll take care of it.
Joey72	Quill Related	#1	[-]
Posts: 15 (2008-12-10 22:07:56) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	OK Kevin you said it yourself that if any other of Zeljko's programs need a critical bugfix then to report it here. I tried using TIemu to run the Quill Adventures but I had no luck. I ran it and received an "Address Error" message. Do you have an updated version of the Quill Adventures for the 89 Titanium? I just thought I would ask. joey
Kevin Kofler		#2	[-]
Posts: 6955 (2008-12-11 03:23:48) Admin Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	No, and making one which doesn't need HW3Patch is near-impossible (I could use the TitaniK hacks maybe, but ugh...). Try using GhostBuster and HW3Patch. I'll try to release a HW3Patch-using version which works properly on the Titanium.
Lionel Debroux		#3	[-]
Posts: 2967 (2008-12-11 10:37:18) Former Admin Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	IMO, it's not worth the trouble changing the program so that it can work without HW3Patch: many 89T users already have HW3Patch, because it's necessary to run, between others, large AMS native programs using TIGCC DLLs (or cousins thereof, like the FAT Engine)
Joey72		#4	[-]
Posts: 16 (2008-12-11 17:53:54) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	I tired using GhsotBuster but had no luck with it. Unless I am doing something wrong. Here is what I enetered: ghostb("quill","quill2") [ENTER] When I hit enter I saw that it said "7 files patched" or something like that. When I ran quill2 the quill browser opens up but when you select a game to play it says "Address Error". Hey guys this is no big deal. So quill adventures cannot be played onthe TI-89T? It's no big deal. If there is no easy fix then it is not really worth the trouble. If I was even decent at programming I would look into it. However, I am not. So I will just have to live with not playing these games. No biggie!! joey
Kevin Kofler		#5	[-]
Posts: 6957 (2008-12-11 18:51:40) Admin Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	The QLL files also need to be patched. If GhostBuster doesn't accept them, I'll have to fix GhostBuster.
Joey72	Update	#6	[-]
Posts: 17 (2008-12-12 04:34:18) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	OK I just tried GjostBuster on both Quill and one of the Demos. Here is what I tried. I used TIemu for this and so when I transfered both files to TIemu they went to the Main folder. So first I tried GhostBuster on quill. Here is what it looked like: ghostb("quill","quill2") [ENTER] Once I pushed [ENTER] it said "7 Patches were Applied". I looked in the Main folder and I saw quill2 and it was archived. Then I ran GhostBuster on one of the Game Demos. The Demo in this case was Castle. Here is what I did: ghostb("castle","castle2") [ENTER] Once I pushed [ENTER] it said "2 Patches were Applied". I looked in the Main folder and I saw castle2 and it was archived. Then I deleted quill and castle leaving only quill2, and castle2. I ran quill2() from the command line on the Home Screen. Quill started up and for the heck of it I escaped out of quill and that was fine. Then I started quill again and I saw castle in the menu of available games to play. So I selected Castle from the menu and then TIemu crashed. I just wanted to let you know what happened when I tried using GhsotBuster on Quill. joey
Kevin Kofler		#7	[-]
Posts: 6959 (2008-12-12 15:04:59) Admin Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	You have to run HW3Patch too. GhostBuster will make the programs stop trying to use the ghost space (which doesn't work on the Titanium), but that then means HW3Patch is needed.
Joey72	Good News	#8	[-]
Posts: 18 (2008-12-12 20:55:35) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	OK I ran HW3Patch and then did what I did above in a previous post and it worked!!! This is great news. Thanks for all of your help!!! joey
Joey72	One Thing I should Mention	#9	[-]
Posts: 19 (2008-12-13 02:04:27) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	I forgot to mention that the HW3Patch did not like TICT Explorer. I am going to make a guess and say that it had something to do with the Password Protection of the TICT Explorer (I read something about this in the HW3Patch ReadMe file). I am sure Kevin and/or Lionel will comment on if that is the real reason or not. That was the only hicup I encountered when I did the above. So I had to remove TICT Explorer in order to have Quill on my 89T. So I will say it here so that if anyone else has the desire to run Quill Adventures on their 89T you must do the following: 1-Run HW3Patch 2-Use GhostBuster on Quill and any of the games you would like to play. 3-Run Quill and Enjoy I do not remember which game but one of the Quill games said that it did not have to be patched. I do not remember which one it was. Hopefully this will help someone out that may want to run these on their 89T. joey
Kevin Kofler		#10	[-]
Posts: 6961 (2008-12-13 03:41:24) Admin Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	You don't have to remove the TICT Explorer, just don't run HW3Patch from within the TICT Explorer, run it from the home screen.
Joey72		#11	[-]
Posts: 20 (2008-12-13 08:41:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	I did indeed run HW3Patch from the home screen. Once I ran it my calculator reset and everything that was not archived was erased. I mean it literally shut off. I just assumed that the HW3Patch was the culprit. At that point I unarchived TICT Explorer and erased it. I just wanted to get Quill to work on my calculator so I sacrificed TICT Explorer. I will install TICT Explorer and see what happens. Right now it is not installed. One thing I noticed when running the various Quill games is that some of the English used in the game text does not sound right. So I downloaded the Quill Writer from TICALC.ORG and looked at the source code for one of the games. I went through the text and corrected it so that it sounded better. Then I recompiled the game with which I corrected the text. I transferred it to TIemu and then ran HW3Patch and then GhostBuster on Quill and the newly compiled game. I started Quill and then selected that one and only game. The game started fine but I noticed that I was unable to QUIT the game. QUIT was simply not being recognized. Do you think that the new version of TIGCC has something to do with this? I am almost positive that I changed nothing other than a few words in the various blocks of Text that is used in the game as descriptions. I did not mess with or change any of the syntax. joey
Lionel Debroux		#12	[-]
Posts: 2973 (2008-12-13 09:47:31) Former Admin Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	HW3Patch doesn't reset the calculator upon exit. Maybe your calculator was left in an unstable state by some other program ? (Note for Kevin: I sent him a 89T-compatible version of TICT-Explorer )
Kevin Kofler		#13	[-]
Posts: 6963 (2008-12-13 19:11:55) Admin Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	Well, some of the games map multiple words to the same identifier ID (to reduce the number of IDs needed, because there was a low limit on them in the original Quill), so if you change the wording, you may be triggering a problem there. But it may also be a compiler bug. If you send me the modified source, I can investigate. And the broken English is probably because Zeljko is not a native English speaker. If this is a game ported from the original Quill, maybe the original author wasn't a native speaker either. (Neither am I, for that matter.)
Joey72		#14	[-]
Posts: 21 (2008-12-13 20:16:34) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	OK I can send you both the original source and the source that I modified. I know that english is not Zeljko's native language. I will never say anything against that. I just got the idea to fix the text up for my own purposes. Now I will go and send both sources to you. If you can find time to look at them then that would be awesome!! joey
Joey72	Hey Kev!	#15	[-]
Posts: 22 (2008-12-18 23:46:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	Hey Kevin, I sent those files to you. I am wondering if you have received them and if you might have had a chance to look over both to see what was going on. If not then no biggie. I was just wondering what the status was on this. joey
Kevin Kofler		#16	[-]
Posts: 6965 (2008-12-19 11:13:13) Admin Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	I received them, but I didn't have any time to look at them yet, sorry.
Kevin Kofler		#17	[-]
Posts: 6971 (2008-12-31 12:57:46) Admin Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Report Post	I still haven't been able to figure out what's going on, but your changes are certainly not at fault. It's a bug in Quill or GCC.

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